Comments on: The wank that dare not speak its name (Pt. 1)

By: quizzical pussy

quizzical pussy — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 17:12:27 +0000

@vorpalmasturbator I have a feeling that lots of guys would agree with you if they gave it a chance. Hell, I'm a chick and I want one!

By: Holly Pervocracy

Holly Pervocracy — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 03:32:25 +0000

I think it’s a social status thing. Men stereotypically get social status by “conquering” women, so conquering a piece of plastic is pathetic, it’s like winning a chess game against your dog. Manual masturbation is acceptable as a necessary release sometimes, but trying to replace a woman in any way, that’s cheating at the game.

By: Mousie00

Mousie00 — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 01:59:19 +0000

@vorpalmasturbator More stamina with regular use is definitely a motivation to learn.

By: Mousie00

Mousie00 — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 01:54:51 +0000

@quizzical pussy
I think we learn to apply the lube so early on that we forget it; really it’s kind of difficult to do without. And I think you’re right that we COULD learn to use a toy the same way, we’d soon forget it and get back to the fantasy. I just don’t think there’s a lot of motivation to learn.

To me, the primary lure of the Real Doll type of toy would be incorporating it into a fantasy; I would want to project my fantasy woman’s identity on the doll, not attach an identity to the doll. (I’ve never seen one in person but video of them makes me think ‘corpse’ and totally creeps me out, more power to the guys who don’t have that reaction.)

By: vorpalmasturbator

vorpalmasturbator — Fri, 29 Jan 2010 01:31:23 +0000

Being a guy and owning a fleshlight I can say that I harbor no shame in using mine. I for years used my hand and my orgasms, while fulfilling a need, were not satisfying. I bought a Fleshlight and the first time I used it, It was like HOLY FUCK!, I was blown away with my orgasm. SInce then, with regular use, I have much more stamina than when I first started. So, if you find the idea of using a sex toy gross, I’ll tell you, don’t knock it til you try it.

By: quizzical pussy

quizzical pussy — Thu, 28 Jan 2010 18:18:32 +0000

@Mousie00 That’s an interesting take on this. It’s probably not fair to apply that to all guys. It seems to me that in many cases (though I understand that it’s not true in yours, nor “should” it be since there are very few “shoulds” in masturbation and they all involve safety, as far as I’m concerned) if a guy can find a way to fuck his hand or apply lube/lotion (which is also a distracting extra item, really), he can also probably get to a point where he can detach from a toy as a sexual object and use it as a tool. “Guys like tools”: I saw it on TV!

…Or really, I’m fine with a guy lusting after his sex toy! Some of them are kind of cool looking. I personally find it troubling when it gets to the “I’m having a relationship with my Real Doll” level, but I think that’s the absolute extreme and I feel it has little in common with getting hard when you look at your Fleshlight’s cute little vulva.

I’m certainly not saying that all guys should use toys. That’s totally a personal preference; I just wish it didn’t have to be an emotionally charged one.

By: Mousie00

Mousie00 — Wed, 27 Jan 2010 13:48:46 +0000

For me, masturbation is almost totally about imagination rather than sensation. I care a lot about what I’m looking at and thinking about, not much about the actual feeling. Bringing an extra item in would just be a distraction; I’d have to momentarily think about the toy instead of the fantasy.

That’s my guess for where the prejudice comes from; we imagine a woman using a toy but not lusting after the toy itself, but we imagine the man lusting after the toy.