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		<title>By: e[lust] #9 : Tales from the Porn Store</title>
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		<dc:creator>e[lust] #9 : Tales from the Porn Store</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Babeland Store Dream Spend an Evening with Madison Young and Help Support the Arts Partner rape, cryptids, and other crazy myths [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Links of Great Interest: Givin&#8217; up that good-good &#124; The Hathor Legacy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Links of Great Interest: Givin&#8217; up that good-good &#124; The Hathor Legacy</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] This is an interesting discussion on partner rape. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: e[lust] #9</title>
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		<dc:creator>e[lust] #9</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Babeland Store Dream Spend an Evening with Madison Young and Help Support the Arts Partner rape, cryptids, and other crazy myths [...]</description>
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		<title>By: E-Lust #9 &#124; Kinky Slave&#39;s Journey</title>
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		<dc:creator>E-Lust #9 &#124; Kinky Slave&#39;s Journey</dc:creator>
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		<description>[...] Babeland Store Dream Spend an Evening with Madison Young and Help Support the Arts Partner rape, cryptids, and other crazy myths [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Truly</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 22:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 19:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is an excellent post.  I like your emphasis on consent, and what is and isn&#039;t consent. 

I&#039;ve don&#039;t know anything about the numbers dealing with false accusations.  And while I agree that rape is a far bigger problem afalse accusation is no cake walk for the accused, and those that have been the victim of it ar going to be more sympathetic to those that claim it is the case.

That said I&#039;ve never had someone tell me they were raped and had any reason to doubt them.  I do think rape happens far more often than false accusations of rape, bt for the victims of either crime the numbers don&#039;t really matter.  What matters is that it happened to them and it was a horrible thing to have happen.

I also think it is natural for men to be more worried about false accusations than rape.  I think men, in general, see that false accusation as a more likely personal threat than rape.  What happened at Duke University is something I remember, and I was one of the people who wanted those guys strung up.  I don&#039;t ever want to be on their position, and it&#039;s something I worry about in reference to myself.  It&#039;s something I am conscious of my vulnerability to.  It&#039;s not likely to happen, but it could.  So I can understand being concerned with it, but at the same time it doesn&#039;t automatically make me doubt every accusation of rape.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an excellent post.  I like your emphasis on consent, and what is and isn&#8217;t consent. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve don&#8217;t know anything about the numbers dealing with false accusations.  And while I agree that rape is a far bigger problem afalse accusation is no cake walk for the accused, and those that have been the victim of it ar going to be more sympathetic to those that claim it is the case.</p>
<p>That said I&#8217;ve never had someone tell me they were raped and had any reason to doubt them.  I do think rape happens far more often than false accusations of rape, bt for the victims of either crime the numbers don&#8217;t really matter.  What matters is that it happened to them and it was a horrible thing to have happen.</p>
<p>I also think it is natural for men to be more worried about false accusations than rape.  I think men, in general, see that false accusation as a more likely personal threat than rape.  What happened at Duke University is something I remember, and I was one of the people who wanted those guys strung up.  I don&#8217;t ever want to be on their position, and it&#8217;s something I worry about in reference to myself.  It&#8217;s something I am conscious of my vulnerability to.  It&#8217;s not likely to happen, but it could.  So I can understand being concerned with it, but at the same time it doesn&#8217;t automatically make me doubt every accusation of rape.</p>
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		<title>By: Mousie00</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 13:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-154&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@quizzical pussy &lt;/a&gt;
I&#039;m afraid I really have to disagree on your evaluation of Marcella Chester&#039;s analysis.  It attempts to debunk a analysis by Edward Greer.  The Greer analysis claims for one thing that the widely used 2% figure is based entirely on sources referring to sources who eventually refer to a speech to the bar association by judge Lawrence H. Cooke citing a New York police study that no one has produced.  Chester does not attempt to address this claim.  Chester does address other claims by Greer that the real rate is higher, but never addresses the point that the 2% is unfounded.  Given that some of Greer&#039;s numbers are based on unreliable polygraph interrogations, and Chester&#039;s numbers are based on the Cooke speech, I&#039;d have to go with Greer if forced to one or the other.

But, I don&#039;t think there are or can be any good numbers on sexual assault for the same reasons it is so hard to judge at trial; it&#039;s all about consent, which is ephemeral, almost invariably privately expressed, and usually implicitly expressed.  If there were a sure way of sorting false accusations from true ones, trials would be much easier.  Compared to gathering data for statistics, the legal system devotes enormous resources to each case, and still can&#039;t determine the truth or falsehood a lot of times.  I don&#039;t see any way a statistician could do better.</description>
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I&#8217;m afraid I really have to disagree on your evaluation of Marcella Chester&#8217;s analysis.  It attempts to debunk a analysis by Edward Greer.  The Greer analysis claims for one thing that the widely used 2% figure is based entirely on sources referring to sources who eventually refer to a speech to the bar association by judge Lawrence H. Cooke citing a New York police study that no one has produced.  Chester does not attempt to address this claim.  Chester does address other claims by Greer that the real rate is higher, but never addresses the point that the 2% is unfounded.  Given that some of Greer&#8217;s numbers are based on unreliable polygraph interrogations, and Chester&#8217;s numbers are based on the Cooke speech, I&#8217;d have to go with Greer if forced to one or the other.</p>
<p>But, I don&#8217;t think there are or can be any good numbers on sexual assault for the same reasons it is so hard to judge at trial; it&#8217;s all about consent, which is ephemeral, almost invariably privately expressed, and usually implicitly expressed.  If there were a sure way of sorting false accusations from true ones, trials would be much easier.  Compared to gathering data for statistics, the legal system devotes enormous resources to each case, and still can&#8217;t determine the truth or falsehood a lot of times.  I don&#8217;t see any way a statistician could do better.</p>
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		<title>By: quizzical pussy</title>
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		<dc:creator>quizzical pussy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 05:51:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-153&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Mousie00 &lt;/a&gt; I didn&#039;t really pick to the best article possible for that statistic; I was purposely going for a current one. &lt;a href=&quot;http://abyss2hope.blogspot.com/2008/10/debunking-debunking-of-2-percent-false.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This great analysis&lt;/a&gt; that I originally found through &lt;a href=&quot;http://daterapeisrealrape.com/Research.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Date Rape is Real Rape&lt;/a&gt; is a little more thorough and also contains a link to an article that argues your point.

Many people say that the 2-3% statistic is too low. From my research I believe that it&#039;s probably roughly accurate, although it&#039;s hard to get a dead-on statistic about something like how many people lie in a given situation.

There&#039;s also a big difference between making a police report and a personal claim that a rape occurred. I know a couple people that have given false accounts of rape, for attention or because of mental illness, and the police were never involved. Someone lying about a rape has an incentive not to let her &quot;rapist&quot; face his accuser in court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-153" rel="nofollow">@Mousie00 </a> I didn&#8217;t really pick to the best article possible for that statistic; I was purposely going for a current one. <a href="http://abyss2hope.blogspot.com/2008/10/debunking-debunking-of-2-percent-false.html" rel="nofollow">This great analysis</a> that I originally found through <a href="http://daterapeisrealrape.com/Research.html" rel="nofollow">Date Rape is Real Rape</a> is a little more thorough and also contains a link to an article that argues your point.</p>
<p>Many people say that the 2-3% statistic is too low. From my research I believe that it&#8217;s probably roughly accurate, although it&#8217;s hard to get a dead-on statistic about something like how many people lie in a given situation.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s also a big difference between making a police report and a personal claim that a rape occurred. I know a couple people that have given false accounts of rape, for attention or because of mental illness, and the police were never involved. Someone lying about a rape has an incentive not to let her &#8220;rapist&#8221; face his accuser in court.</p>
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		<title>By: Mousie00</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mousie00</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Feb 2010 05:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I certainly believe that partner rape is far more common than stranger rape and grossly underreported.  I don&#039;t believe the 2-3% false sexual assault report number.  The link doesn&#039;t provide any information other than some undergrads said it in a college paper.  Could be percentage of sexual assault cases where the victim of the false report successfully prosecutes the false accuser; I&#039;d believe that.

I believed my ex&#039;s accounts of sexual abuse by her father and others, which specifically included coitus, despite the fact her hymen was intact on our wedding night, up until I found out she was telling people I beat her.  (That was not a gray area or subject to interpretation; there was no BDSM or rough sex, and I withdraw when angry rather than shoving or even shouting; it was total fabrication.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I certainly believe that partner rape is far more common than stranger rape and grossly underreported.  I don&#8217;t believe the 2-3% false sexual assault report number.  The link doesn&#8217;t provide any information other than some undergrads said it in a college paper.  Could be percentage of sexual assault cases where the victim of the false report successfully prosecutes the false accuser; I&#8217;d believe that.</p>
<p>I believed my ex&#8217;s accounts of sexual abuse by her father and others, which specifically included coitus, despite the fact her hymen was intact on our wedding night, up until I found out she was telling people I beat her.  (That was not a gray area or subject to interpretation; there was no BDSM or rough sex, and I withdraw when angry rather than shoving or even shouting; it was total fabrication.)</p>
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