Comments on: Le Mépris

By: quizzical pussy

quizzical pussy — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 17:10:40 +0000

@Mousie00 It was a while ago at this point, but I'd say it was about half and half. Oddly, the one who originally sent me the article was the one who said it sounded accurate. He and I don't talk anymore, for unrelated reasons.

By: Mousie00

Mousie00 — Tue, 29 Jun 2010 12:50:20 +0000

I’m wondering whether you asked your friends about the quotes or the whole article? I had only read your quotes when I responded before. I think the ugly parts could kind of get lost if you skimmed.

By: Mousie00

Mousie00 — Mon, 28 Jun 2010 14:02:06 +0000

quizzical pussy : @Mousie00 It was a little depressed by the blasé way my male friends viewed this phenomenon. It seems to go beyond overthinking the matter and well into corrupting it (and to me, not in a good way).

It seriously creeps me out.

By: Mousie00

Mousie00 — Mon, 28 Jun 2010 13:53:56 +0000

@quizzical pussy Definitely not normal feminism. I said "paranoid feminist", but that wasn't clear enough. I meant the kind of rare, weird, radical feminst that implies or says that no woman can ever consent to sex because of the patriarchy and that all heterosexual sex is rape; this sounds like exactly how such a person talks about penis-in-vagina intercourse.

By: quizzical pussy

quizzical pussy — Sun, 27 Jun 2010 17:31:52 +0000

@Holly Pervocracy It's cool to like being conquered. I like that sometimes myself. But to me that has to be more like a game than a native mindset. I'm not interested in someone who really looks at me as a weak, quivering vessel for his unquenchable might. And isn't it more fun to conquer someone who's potentially capable of not folding like a cheap Gap employee? I feel like if penetration is conquering by default, it takes the fun out of everything. Incidentally, it would also make it way easier to scratch more of my kink itches.

By: quizzical pussy

quizzical pussy — Sun, 27 Jun 2010 17:24:16 +0000

@Mousie00 I don't know that it has a lot to do with feminism, and if it did it would certainly be a distortion of feminism. The article makes it seem like this woman was just trying something new and then got blindsided by this major "epiphany" about male/female dynamics. I can't explain why this might have occurred, obviously. Maybe she didn't like wielding a strap-on and projected her latent disgust for the concept onto her boyfriend. Maybe she was processing pre-existing feelings about intercourse from a new perspective. Whatever it was, I have to guess it was mostly personal and not necessarily a product of feminism. It was a little depressed by the blasé way my male friends viewed this phenomenon. It seems to go beyond overthinking the matter and well into corrupting it (and to me, not in a good way).

By: quizzical pussy

quizzical pussy — Sun, 27 Jun 2010 17:15:19 +0000

@Luscious Lily Being protective of a partner is totally natural in that situation, I think. The superiority and contempt? That's disturbing. I'm sure there are guys (and chicks) who feel that way about intercourse, but I wish I had some way to identify them easily so I can avoid them all.

By: Holly Pervocracy

Holly Pervocracy — Sun, 27 Jun 2010 13:42:06 +0000

Virgina pretty much sounds like a creep. She’s not taking on the “male viewpoint”–penetrated or penetrator, she’s still herself and those are HER thoughts.

I’ve had moments when I had a cock inside me and I was conquering, silent, responsible, the taker.
Funny thing–I’ve had those moments too, and they weren’t that fun for me. They were all about the guy, and sometimes I enjoyed them as a service to the guy, but not on a “OH FUCCKKKK” level. I enjoy myself most when I’m being conquered (although hopefully not seen as disgusting! sad face!), and I’m okay with that.

By: Mousie00

Mousie00 — Sat, 26 Jun 2010 00:00:53 +0000

All of that sounds to me like what a paranoid feminist would imagine a man would think, and I think she confirms that with “I felt like a projector being loaded with slides of maleness, of male seeing.” She saw what she expected to see.

I guess I’m a very different guy than the male friends you asked, none of it sounds right to me at all. Not overthought; totally wrong and nasty. I am extremely uncomfortable with the idea that any of the friends you asked thought it was other than crap. But I am also extremely uncomfortable with the frequent use of “slut” and “bitch” in porn, and it would be ridiculous to say that doesn’t appeal to a lot of men.

Probably this is one of those issues where there is no male point of view. There are only people’s points of view. Some of which are horrible.

By: Luscious Lily

Luscious Lily — Fri, 25 Jun 2010 19:46:55 +0000

As someone who has on occasion penetrated a male partner with a strap-on, my experiences were absolutely nothing like those of this Virginia. Frankly, I find them disturbing. For us, there was no power-exchange involved in pegging. Yes, I felt a bit protective of him, but that was more because he was nervous about a new experience than because I was feeling all “male” and dominant. It was an act of love, shared, not a claiming or a defiling or a submission. There was no shame or fear involved; if there had been, we would never, ever have done it.

I think you’re absolutely right, this tells us much more about her and what’s going on inside her head than it does about how guys think. And frankly, it makes me worry a bit about what’s going on inside her head.